Saturday, January 14, 2006

Evolution- Oh this really clears things up

From Der Speigel, here's an interview with Evolution Philosopher Daniel Dennett. From the beginning, I have a problem with the interviewer's statement:

Professor Dennett, more than 120 million Americans believe that God created Adam our of mud some 10,000 years ago and made Eve from his rib. Do you personally know any of these 120 million?
I question the number of Americans who believe in the 10,000 year time frame. I don't know where they got these numbers. I'm sure its a guestimate based on an assumption of the number of "Fundamentalist" Christians in America.

One interesting aspect of the interview is that this Dr. Dennett ridicules the idea of a creator but his advocacy of Darwinism becomes his theology.

Dennett: I would give Darwin the gold medal for the best idea anybody ever had. It unifies the world of meaning and purpose and goals and freedom with the world of science, with the world of the physical sciences. I mean, we talk about the great gap between social science and natural science. What closes that gap? Darwin -- by showing us how purpose and design, meaning, can arise out of purposelessness, out of just brute matter.

SPIEGEL: Is Darwinism at work every time something new is created? Even at the creation of the universe for example?
Dennett: It's at least interesting to see that quasi- or pseudo-Darwinian ideas are also popular in physics. They postulate a huge diversity from which there has, in a certain sense, been a selection. The result is that here we are and this is the only part of this huge diversity that we witness. That's not the Darwinian idea, but it's a relative. The philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche had the idea -- I would guess perhaps inspired by Darwin -- of eternal recurrence: The idea that all the possibilities are played out and if the time is infinite and matter is infinite then every permutation will be tried, not once, but a trillion times.

Dennett just espoused The nonsense of "nothing times time equals life." I guess it's not a Darwinian idea because no self-respecting scientist could embrace this kind of atheistic lunacy.

SPIEGEL: Another idea of Nietzsche's was that God is dead. Is that also a logical conclusion reached by Darwinism?

Dennett: It is a very clear consequence. The argument for design, I think, has always been the best argument for the existence of God and when Darwin comes along, he pulls the rug out from under that.

SPIEGEL: Evolution, in other words, leaves no room for God?

Dennett: One has to understand that God's role has been diminished over the eons. First we had God, as you said, making Adam and making every creature with his hands, plucking the rib from Adam and making Eve from that rib. Then we trade that God in for the God who sets evolution in motion. And then you say you don't even need that God -- the law giver -- because if we take these ideas from cosmology seriously then there are other places and other laws and life evolves where it can. So now we no longer have God the law finder or the law giver, but just God the master of ceremonies. When God is the master of ceremonies and doesn't actually play any role any more in the universe, he's sort of diminished and no longer intervenes in any way.
Did Dennett just give the game away? We "trade in God for evolution." Then, "we don't need God, the law giver..."

Finally, Dennett gives us insight into his political leanings:

SPIEGEL: Do you have an explanation for why the belief in Intelligent Design is nowhere so widespread as in the United States?

Dennett: No, unfortunately I don't. But I can say, the alliance between fundamentalists or evangelical religion and right wing politics is a very troubling phenomenon and this is certainly one of the most potent reasons for it. What's really scary is that a lot of them seem to think that the second coming is around the corner -- the idea that we're going to have Armageddon anyway so it doesn't make much difference. I find that to be socially irresponsible on the highest order. It's scary.

This is an often made and gross mis-representation of Christians that I find that "to be socially irresponsible on the highest order. It's scary.. "

But I shouldn't worry because obviously, Dr. Dennett is so learned, so brilliant, so wise. He's got all the answers.

This is the best explanation for this kind of thinking:
Rom 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified [him] not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Rom 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
Rom 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.


update: a timely link regarding Professor Dennett.

3 comments:

Tiger said...

Very appropriate selections from Scripture, Whit! - nicely done!

Here is a link to one of my favorite books:

http://www.gnpcb.org/product/1581345615

It has a chapter concerning Evolution which blows away most everything in Dennett's interview. It discusses the "Anthropic Principle", the idea that science iself is proving GOD's existence and that it's a matter of "religious faith" to be an Atheist, just as you said!

Tiger said...

... oh! One more thing ...

I read Nietzsche's Beyond Good and Evil many years ago. It's no wonder Dennett's preoccupation with death and destruction of the world is so evident. Nietzsche was a favorite "read" for Adolf Hitler, and it's a favorite for most tyrants, dictators, and the politically left. But, I repeat myself ...

: )

Anonymous said...

I have grown to despise the name "Nietzsche" as much or more than "Hitler." Hitler was just the manifestation of Nietzsche's ideas which continue to infect mankind.

I imagine that hell is populated with nothing but Nietzsches and Hitlers. What really scares me is that here in this world in every heart has a little Nietzsche and Hitler.