Sunday, October 14, 2007

The Haters of America Continue To Stir Up Trouble

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Air America Launches Nationwide Atheism Program

The liberal talk radio network Air America announced this week it will launch a nationwide show focusing on atheism. The first national show will feature Christopher Hitchens, author of "God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything.

"The Freethought Radio Program, hosted by the co-presidents of the Freedom From Religion Foundation, has been airing on Air America's Madison, Wis., affiliate since April 2006.

On Saturday, Oct. 6, the show will begin airing on 14 other affiliates from Palm Springs, Fla., to Eugene, Ore., and on XM Satellite radio.

"You can turn on the radio or TV 24/7 to be preached at," Annie Laurie Gaylor, co-president of the FFRF, said in a statement. "This is one hour a week of the public airwaves that offers an alternative."

Gaylor said the program "offers irreverent views, news, music and interviews," including a regular news feature called "Theocracy Alert.

"Peter Sprigg, vice president for policy at the Family Research Council, noted that atheists have the same free speech rights as all Americans. Yet, as he told Cybercast News Service, "I doubt atheist radio will be any more popular than liberal radio."

"Conservative talk radio dominates, as do Christian radio programs," he said. "I don't think Dr. James Dobson, with Focus on the Family, has anything to worry about from atheist radio."

Sprigg further said that liberals often claim that one can be a Christian and a liberal at the same, but, in his view, the step to promote atheism on the airwaves is indicative perhaps that liberalism is incompatible with traditional religious belief.

... funny how some Liberals say they believe in Freedom but really don't!

9 comments:

Teresita said...

Sprigg further said that liberals often claim that one can be a Christian and a liberal at the same, but, in his view, the step to promote atheism on the airwaves is indicative perhaps that liberalism is incompatible with traditional religious belief.

Perhaps traditionl religious belief is incompatible with the gospel. Jesus aligned Himself with the poor. He challenged religious orthodoxy. He advocated a radical form of non-violence and even loving our enemies. He dealt kindly with women and the hated Samaritan minority. He told his disciples to abandon their private property in order to focus on Him. He performed works of healing on the Sabbath and forgave an adulteress. He was seen cavorting with drunks. He rebuked the conservatives of His day because they adhered to the letter of the law instead of the law's spiritual intent.

Tiger said...

Hi 'T'!

Yes, I can agree that, in some ways, "Traditional belief" has problems - all created by man!

- Christ didn't "align" Himself with the poor; He ministered to them, He healed them, He fed them, He blessed them, He told them to follow Jewish Law, He told them to work so they can eat, He told them to develop their talents, etc. Have you noticed church's doing this in your neighborhood? I have!

- Christ challenged religious orthodoxy only in the sense that man had perverted the Law and was not following it properly; remember, He came not to deny or alter the Law, but to "fulfill" it. Honestly, 'T'; you seem to follow man more than you know! : )

- He advocated non-violence, etc. Yes, He did; and He also said, I bring a (spiritual) sword, children will be against parents, be as sly as the serpent, gentle as the dove, take a cloak, a sword, a staff, etc. And yes, love your enemies. Can you literally fight your enemies and love them at the same time? Yes! I think so!

- Bill Clinton really respected women, huh?

- Yes, easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, etc. Fewer people are born wealthy than the ones that are self made. Otaining/earning wealth gives one a vast responsibility - that is to do good things with that wealth. Both sides of the political spectrum have failed on this point, in my way of thinking. I wonder how much money Jesus' family earned in the carpentry/woodworking business? BTW, the word here is; EARNED!

- Yes, He healed on the Sabbath because He was the Sabbath, and forgiveness was His alone - not a preacher's or priest's. BTW, He didn't "cavort" with drunks, He ministered to them. The sick need healing, not the well! He went where the need was!

- And He rebuked the unbending minds and hearts of the man created orthodoxy. To say the Pharissee's were "conservative" is to say all Republicans are "conservative". I would argue that they are truly conservative. I would also argue against all Democrats being communist, as well. Did you know that Jesus' family and He were most likly raised as Pharisses?

Again, 'T' you keep confusing an individual's spiritual well-being with political groupings. This in itself is contrary to the spiritual efforts towards YOUR growth and MY growth in Christ. You keep focusing on the WORLD, not GOD! (my "rebuke" is as a spiritual brother-not an adversary)

The changes you and I may want to see in the world can only be made through GOD's (Jesus') vast love, not by military or political force; one heart and mind at a time!

The Air America effort is against Jesus - period! No amount of political "justification" makes it right!

... I'll be back tomorrow!

Teresita said...

Christ didn't "align" Himself with the poor; He ministered to them

And in the parable of Lazarus and the rich man he exalted them.

Christ challenged religious orthodoxy only in the sense that man had perverted the Law and was not following it properly; remember, He came not to deny or alter the Law, but to "fulfill" it.

Religious orthodoxy spoke of taking an eye for an eye, stripe for stripe, limiting retribution so that perps were not killed for stealing a bag of marshmallows. Christ's narrow way takes it even further, preaching that we are not even to nurse anger against our brother, for that is the seed of violence.

Again, 'T' you keep confusing an individual's spiritual well-being with political groupings.

Air America is a political grouping. This coming radio program is a place for people to express their freedom from religion. In a way, when Jesus said to let go of the hand-washings and public prayers and public almsgivings and tend to the poor, he too was setting people free from the religion of the day.

Tiger said...

And in the parable of Lazarus and the rich man he exalted them.

Ahhh! This parable shows exactly what I stated earlier. Riches carry with it a great responsibility. The rich man and "poor" Lazarus are used here to make this point. Also, if you and I are living the life of paupers and have given all our wealth to the poor along with all others - then ALL will be poor (except for the Communist Kings). To think this what is intended by scripture is absurd!

Religious orthodoxy spoke of taking an eye for an eye, stripe for stripe, limiting retribution so that perps were not killed for stealing a bag of marshmallows. Christ's narrow way takes it even further, preaching that we are not even to nurse anger against our brother, for that is the seed of violence.

Again, you're confusing Man with GOD - you do that often, 'T'! : ) And yes, this is part of Christ's "fulfillment"! Thank GOD for it! That's a pun, huh? It's also why we had to have a new covenant.

Air America is a political grouping. This coming radio program is a place for people to express their freedom from religion. In a way, when Jesus said to let go of the hand-washings and public prayers and public almsgivings and tend to the poor, he too was setting people free from the religion of the day.

There is no "freedom from religion" here, 'T'. You've got the wrong country! We have freedom OF religion. Christ was setting people free from MANS orthodoxy, not GOD's!

It's obvious, your "belief" would have us all "poor" and "slaves" to all our enemies. If you truly believe that, you had better give everything away and go turn yourself in to AQ. Read Paul - you seem to "see" things more in the "flesh" than in the "spirit"! Of course, we all do sometimes! : )

Teresita said...

Tiger: Also, if you and I are living the life of paupers and have given all our wealth to the poor along with all others - then ALL will be poor (except for the Communist Kings).

The book of Acts describes the economics of the earliest Christian community, and it reads like something right out of Karl Marx:

ACTS 2:44-45 And all that believed were together, and had all things common; And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.

To think this what is intended by scripture is absurd!

To truly follow Jesus the way he demands, we must let go of our attachment to family, friends, and hard as it seems to conservatives... yes, even our material possessions:

Luke 14:33 "[W]hosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple."

There is no "freedom from religion" here, 'T'. You've got the wrong country! We have freedom OF religion. Christ was setting people free from MANS orthodoxy, not GOD's!

James 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

Tiger said...

Ok! We're getting somewhere!

'T', do you live like the early Christians?

If not, according to your argument, YOU aren't following the teachings? - Correct?

Now, if you see it as history as well as "teaching", and you understand that we are not the early Christians but are modern day 'Gentiles' then You MUST ANSWER MY QUESTION - WHY AREN'T YOU LIVING THIS WAY

Tiger said...

Also, another thing you should do is move to a Communist country. Its the only decent thing to do! Right?

Teresita said...

'T', do you live like the early Christians? If not, according to your argument, YOU aren't following the teachings? - Correct?

My husband works to pay our bills (mortgage, power, water, etc). Our cars are paid off. Nearly everything I make is sent as remittances to the Philippines to help support many members of my family there, and to provide when they have emergency needs. Every few months we send "care" packages there. Every few years we go there and unload a great deal of cash, and for ourselves we only accept some fruit and rice and chicken and roast pig. I do not say we are living exactly like the early Church, but I would say we are much closer to that model than many Americans today, with their lust for the latest gadgets.

Tiger said...

We live in a similar way, 'T'. We help others and share, on our own, not because of government requirement. Americans, as a whole, give more than all other countries combined. But you want to throw out everything because of some bad ones.

If other country's leaders weren't so corrupt, they would have more to share - but, alas, that's not the case!